http://chriskou.com/2009/04/17/continuity-between-moses-and-christ-a-puritans-doorway-to-traditional-liturgy-part-2/ From the mixed-up files of Christopher Kou Mon, 23 Jan 2012 17:51:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 http://chriskou.com/2009/04/17/continuity-between-moses-and-christ-a-puritans-doorway-to-traditional-liturgy-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4050 Christopher Kou Sat, 02 May 2009 11:59:00 +0000 http://chriskou.com/?p=154#comment-4050 You need to take Hosea 6:6 in context. First, no one is suggesting we reinstitute blood sacrifices or burnt offerings. The only thing this verse could directly apply to today would be the tithe and offering or to once and for all sacrifice of Christ on the cross which we claim as our own.Second, God is clearly not telling them to cease the Temple services in that verse, since the Mosaic order is still in effect. The point of the passage is that sacrifice without covenant love (berith) is worthless. Especially as it relates to animal sacrifice.Obviously God is not saying here that he desires NO sacrifice, otherwise He would not have sent his only-begotten Son to be the Lamb to take away our sins.Since Jesus is quoting Hosea in Matthew 9, I think this covers that as well. You need to take Hosea 6:6 in context. First, no one is suggesting we reinstitute blood sacrifices or burnt offerings. The only thing this verse could directly apply to today would be the tithe and offering or to once and for all sacrifice of Christ on the cross which we claim as our own.Second, God is clearly not telling them to cease the Temple services in that verse, since the Mosaic order is still in effect. The point of the passage is that sacrifice without covenant love (berith) is worthless. Especially as it relates to animal sacrifice.Obviously God is not saying here that he desires NO sacrifice, otherwise He would not have sent his only-begotten Son to be the Lamb to take away our sins.Since Jesus is quoting Hosea in Matthew 9, I think this covers that as well.

]]> http://chriskou.com/2009/04/17/continuity-between-moses-and-christ-a-puritans-doorway-to-traditional-liturgy-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4049 Christopher Kou Sat, 02 May 2009 11:52:00 +0000 http://chriskou.com/?p=154#comment-4049 >>>OK, which ones?<<<Stay tuned. That's what this series is all about. Although I must wonder if you missed everything I wrote here about the Tabernacle of the Mosaic priesthood and how it relates to the NT.>>>We need to bring God's kingdom out of the church and stop with the idea that a perfect liturgy will be our means of salvation or a dominion here on earth.<<<Todd, I think you're missing my point. I am not expecting to find a "perfect liturgy" on earth, and I am certainly not suggesting that a perfect liturgy is a means of salvation. I am only saying that the Bible gives guidelines, both general and specific, for Christian worship that we Reformed Christians often miss when we don't consider the implications of certain passages such as the Lord's Prayer.What do you mean by bringing "God's kingdom out of the church"? Liturgy, as worship, is a means to dominion, as it relates to discipling the nations, baptizing them, and teaching them to observe Christ's commandments. >>>OK, which ones?<<<Stay tuned. That's what this series is all about. Although I must wonder if you missed everything I wrote here about the Tabernacle of the Mosaic priesthood and how it relates to the NT.>>>We need to bring God's kingdom out of the church and stop with the idea that a perfect liturgy will be our means of salvation or a dominion here on earth.<<<Todd, I think you're missing my point. I am not expecting to find a "perfect liturgy" on earth, and I am certainly not suggesting that a perfect liturgy is a means of salvation. I am only saying that the Bible gives guidelines, both general and specific, for Christian worship that we Reformed Christians often miss when we don't consider the implications of certain passages such as the Lord's Prayer.What do you mean by bringing "God's kingdom out of the church"? Liturgy, as worship, is a means to dominion, as it relates to discipling the nations, baptizing them, and teaching them to observe Christ's commandments.

]]> http://chriskou.com/2009/04/17/continuity-between-moses-and-christ-a-puritans-doorway-to-traditional-liturgy-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4048 Todd Hesselberg Sat, 02 May 2009 10:23:00 +0000 http://chriskou.com/?p=154#comment-4048 "In fact, the closer we look at passages specifically regarding worship, the more we will see a continuity between administrations."OK, which ones?"To be dynamic you have to be specific" - John S.When it comes to man's desire for a perfect liturgy it comes down to this, Hosea 6:6 and Matt 9:13. We need to bring God's kingdom out of the church and stop with the idea that a perfect liturgy will be our means of salvation or a dominion here on earth. "In fact, the closer we look at passages specifically regarding worship, the more we will see a continuity between administrations."OK, which ones?"To be dynamic you have to be specific" – John S.When it comes to man's desire for a perfect liturgy it comes down to this, Hosea 6:6 and Matt 9:13. We need to bring God's kingdom out of the church and stop with the idea that a perfect liturgy will be our means of salvation or a dominion here on earth.

]]> http://chriskou.com/2009/04/17/continuity-between-moses-and-christ-a-puritans-doorway-to-traditional-liturgy-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4047 Hannah Halliday Sat, 25 Apr 2009 13:11:00 +0000 http://chriskou.com/?p=154#comment-4047 Looking forward to the next one. :o) Looking forward to the next one. )

]]> http://chriskou.com/2009/04/17/continuity-between-moses-and-christ-a-puritans-doorway-to-traditional-liturgy-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4046 Ruth Schnabel Fri, 24 Apr 2009 21:20:00 +0000 http://chriskou.com/?p=154#comment-4046 Another great post Another great post

]]> http://chriskou.com/2009/04/17/continuity-between-moses-and-christ-a-puritans-doorway-to-traditional-liturgy-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4045 Jessica Lynne Webber Long Thu, 23 Apr 2009 10:30:00 +0000 http://chriskou.com/?p=154#comment-4045 Hey, where is part 1 ? Hey, where is part 1 ?

]]> http://chriskou.com/2009/04/17/continuity-between-moses-and-christ-a-puritans-doorway-to-traditional-liturgy-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4340 Jessica Long Thu, 23 Apr 2009 10:30:00 +0000 http://chriskou.com/?p=154#comment-4340 Hey, where is part 1 ? Hey, where is part 1 ?

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